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Wisemaj
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Registered: 11-2003

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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 01:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I just purchased Video Poker Pro, and while overall I am very impressed with the product, there are 2 major disappointments: Dealer speed (addressed in a separate thread) and the Tutor decision tables.

I noticed that the tutor uses the same decision table for Jacks or Better and Tens or Better. This results in recommendations for plays that are nowhere near optimum.

In another thread, Guido responded to a customer who questioned the tutor's recommendations with the following:

"The 10 is generally considered a High Card regardless, especially in non-wildcard games, such as Jacks or Better. The term "High" card does not imply that the card can be used to build a paying pair, it simply means, it is a card of high value."

This is absolutely wrong! A ten is NOT considered a high card in Jacks or Better. A pair of tens in Jacks or Better is no better than a pair of two's. I would recommend the following sites for detailed, statistically verified, decision tables.

Jeff Lotspiech's Video Poker Page at //members.aol.com/lotsie/poker.html

Michael Shackleford's Wizard of Odds Site at //www.wizardofodds.com/games/videopoker

While the tutor feature has great potential to be a valuable learning tool, as currently implemented, it is less than "Totally Worthless". Unless the decisions are based on statistically valid rules, it teaches the player to give away any advantage to be gained with optimum play.

PLEASE consider resolving this. This feature is one of the primary reasons I chose your product.
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Guido
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 01:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Sadly there are about a gazilion different versions, strategies and recommendations when it comes to Video Poker. We have implemented [b]one[/b] of them - one that is based on statistical data. Invariably it will in many aspects differ from the countless other recommendations and strategies because there is no such thing as the perfect strategy in Video Poker.

With that in mind I am sorry to tell you that we have no intentions of changing the tutor at this point.
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Wisemaj
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

Guido,

Thanks for the quick response.

Can you direct me to the source of the strategy that you referred to in your response? I would like to review it to see why I perceive the statistics to be so far off.

I disagree with your statement that there is "no such thing as the perfect strategy in Video Poker". Poker Video strategy is not voodoo, nor is it rocket science ... it's statistics, and statistics can be calculated mathematically, ie, precisely. The strategy rules based on those statistics may be more or less complicated depending on how precisely you want to implement them, but the rules should not direct you to do grossly inaccurate moves, such as your currently implemented strategy does.

Sorry to harp on this, but with a Mathematics major with a Statistics focus, I am confident in my evaluation of your strategy. Please check it out with others who know Video Poker and statistics. Your customers who use the tutor feature should reasonably expect not to be trained in a horribly incompetent method.
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Guido
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post

I do not have the reference around any more. It's been far too long since I wrote the game, but in general I do take exception with your statement about the "horribly incompetent method" just because you believe you have the perfect solution and everything else is without merit. I am very sorry if the game's standard does not meet yours, but when writing the game we did as much research as was appropriate on the subject.

(Message edited by guido on November 18, 2003)

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